Xbox & AMD Are 'Delivering On A Promise' By Making Existing Libraries Work On Next-Gen

And the good news just keeps coming. Like I've said a thousand times, next gen Xbox is going to be defining. All we know so far, old news and recent, points to an open platform with heaps of power, many features, and access to libraries upon libraries of games - with very few barriers. It's gunna be hella amazing.

Microsoft have billions upon billions in the bank and are one of the most advanced technological company's in the world!!
I'm sure they can sort this out quite easily in fairness it's not going to be rocket science 🤷

Okay I’m confused again. Here we are with them referring to console as separate entities to PCs. I thought the whole point was everything was being unified under the Windows umbrella into one platform, but now they’re talking about multiple platforms here. That seems to contradict what Sarah Bond was saying. Great, just great. Imagine my crushing disappointment if all this turns out to be just poorly worded PR nonsense 😭

I’m tired, boss. My brain needs a rest from all this frustratingly vague marketing spiel.

I know I should not get my hopes up high but everytime I read that BC is a huge factor for next gen Xbox I am getting visions of a new Xbox where I can put in the 360 or OG discs in and they start without any problem with enhanced features like better resolution and framerate.
One can hope ..

I think it's just AMDs way of saying that they're already the market leader in APUs, and we're going to make them better. Unified memory is a given in a console, if they become good enough to be prevalent in the PC space then stupidly expensive Nvidia GPUs could be finally reasonably priced!

@FraserG

Microsoft should make sure that Nvidia and Intel can run these also.

They should just make the damn pc console already that plays everything and then we can move on

@kmtrain83 A very understandable viewpoint, but look at it like this. We've already learnt that the next Xbox will be feature competitive (which in itself is massively exciting because if there's a few things Xbox lacks, it's the features of its competitors). We already know that it will mark the biggest technological in a long while. We also know that it wont be limited to one storefront - meaning we will be able to play more than just Xbox games.

Throw in everything else (massive BC support for one) and we're left with a machine that can play a ton of things that came before, and a heap of things yet to come - from more than one storefront (which could also mean BC across other storefronts) and we're left with one hell of a machine that crosses so many lines a console has dare yet to cross.

Sure, Xbox S/X are lacking in sales compared to Sony and Ninty, but this next Xbox could well be the unicorn we've all been waiting for. I mean hell, if it does play PC games, we could even see PS games (PC versions) being played, and much more - including games that usually skip console. It's all speculative right now, but if the leaks are true and MS stick to their guns on what they themselves have announced, I'm thrilled.

Being full digital now with over 1300 games i hope as many as possible will transfer over, but ill hang on to my Series X until i know for sure

I don't have as rosy an outlook as others. This seemingly talks about multiple chips so now it'll be a Steam situation where you'll have to worry about how your Xbox-branded product will play a certain game? Look at how just supporting X and S caused "issues." Even the ROG Xbox Ally has two different models that are seemingly quite far apart spec wise. It'll just get more and more confusing. But I'll reserve final judgement until the next console is officially released but they seem to be moving in a direction that I have less interest in following them in.

My body is ready

Mark my words. They gonna announce more devices, not getting rid of devices.

There is no point to quit consoles at the moment.
There will be 90% another xbox console on xbox OS.
There also will be xbox PCs both under-Tv and handhelds - maybe by Ms or partners, maybe both.
There is no contradiction as AMD chips are used on current series consoles too.

Their strategy is to reach more people, not cut off existing base

@Secryt notice they do talk about consoles. So I think we sill see consoles like series for those whi dont want anything with PC. However if you want more of PC hybrid device - you will have xbox PCs.

More choice is better

@Kaloudz because PC no matter how hard you try is a PC. Valve came the closest to bridge the gap with steamOS and still its a different experience compared to consoles. And windows is way more bloated and needs more work. If they reach todays level of steamOs by 2027 that would be miracle

So now AMD will be the best graphics platform for those classic games and Nvidia is (and likely will be) the best graphics platform for the newer titles. That makes my future purchases a lot easier, great! /s

It's fair. I don't care that much as it's expected then pulling away and wasting more time/money on things. Keeping existing, get enough new while not sacrificing too much is completely fair and less hassle on the hardware side. It makes total sense to do so for both companies if they keep that consistent.

So the consistency, enhancements and more are appreciated but to me I can stick to an Xbox One or Series and still not care about the benefits of the next one besides the consistency (I already don't care about resolution, HDR, etc. stuff, frame rates sure but otherwise most new benefits consoles offer have been uninteresting, how they are used, what they actually do, I just don't care, I keep up to date on them and cues, as much as I can understand, still don't care about them, to be informed, see how they are used, but also see what garbage design trends we see of visuals, frame rates and other nonsense TV/other makers want to put that is just going to be eh, let alone I already don't care about reality or eh artstyles, and gameplay sucks so what else is there to do other then go retro).

Let alone I'd rather just play a game that's exciting then boring modern games, fair list of old games and no new licenses but those on PS/Nintendo because third parties are too lazy or source code access, reverse engineering time/money or other factors.

I'd rather play OG Xbox games on a 360 or any other platform that has certain games or 'other means'. Licensing is a pain and always will be. I don't care how they perform and how bad, if they were good enough still they are good enough, enhancements are nice but I don't need them, not really.

Don't developers want to release their games over and over again though? I like backwards compatibility and love it on XSX. Nintendo tax is high but I pay it a lot which helps developers. I own multiple titles on several platforms (MegaMan X4 I'm looking at you PS1, Xbox One, Switch, Xbox Series X)

@Millionski Perhaps, but all that we know (leaks and some vague intel drops from MS) it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility. Word on the street does seem to point to it being something that at the very least, is being worked upon.

@Cakefish
I am not sure what the confusion is?

Windows - A fully fledged operating system that you can pretty much install any software you want on it through its desktop user interface. Including games.

Console OS - A full fledged operating system/firmware designed for TV and controller as the primary user interface. Going forward will be based entirely on the same code base as Windows but trimmed of the optionals that are required for installing all types of applications.

You can have both console and PC use the same base operating system and have two different User Interfaces. The only question I have is will I be able to configure a PC to bootup using the console interface? If so, I will be able to attach console or PC hardware to my TV seamlessly. That would be cool because I could buy high end PC gaming hardware and just say, "Make this a console". And voila! I have a hugely powerful console! Also, I could upgrade it whenever I felt like it, no more waiting for the next gen. The gen is what I can afford!

@Kaloudz its being worked upon 100% and its a future vision. It wont replace the console as early as 2027/2028.
However if they make significant progress with windows + xbox AND next gen console “flops” sure they will only do windows. But imo thats the topic for 2036+ lol.

@Millionski Do you really think it's that far away? Like, honestly believe that? (Genuine question).

@NeoRatt if console and PC are still going to be treated as distinct entities then that’s really just continuation of the status quo, as XSX is already running a streamlined edition of Windows 11. So it would be a lot of hype over nothing. I want to see some real change, I want to see Steam on Xbox hardware as well as the death of the mandatory online multiplayer paywall.

@Cakefish
Right now I think the Windows on XB is a deriviave of Windows rather then a true subset still. I think what they are saying is that it becomes a true subset next gen. Meaning one development exercise allows you to ship on both console and Windows PCs without (significant) modifications.

That is of course just speculation and we will have to see what this really is. We will probably get hints with the new ROG Ally UI. If it does multiple stores that would be super cool!

I saw the presentation as more MS is trying to own the narrative for the next generation rather then in the past where they have allowed Sony to own the narrative for pretty much each PS generation. We will get more detail later, but this presentation setup themes and principles that I think gives MS marketing control over the next generation's narrative.

You can be sure Sony/Nintendo will not go in any of these directions. They want total lock in to their hardware, PS Firmware/OS, and store. The only way Sony/Nintendo will go away from their approach is if their console sales plummet. Their whole ecosystems are built on the idea that they successfully sell locked in hardware, firmware/OS, and stores. If the hardware does not sell they want to move to the next generation quickly because they won't have the install base to make the profit they are used to making.

@Kaloudz yes and its realistic outlook. Valve spent years and years with steam os and still its not like a console experience.
I am not even sure its possible at all to make PC gaming on windows same as console.
Definitely not in 2 years.

@NeoRatt that’s how I interpreted Sarah Bond’s statement too, so I certainly hope that’s how it pans out!

@Millionski Assuming they haven't already been spending a few years on it though...

I mean, we can all but wait and see but I reckon we may well be pleasantly surprised. There's a lot of things pointing to the likelihood of multi store access.

@Kaloudz why gamble if you (MS) can release console (which is mentioned in the official statement) like series s/x and try to keep your 30-40M userbase who likes console while simultaneously release xbox PC on windows with new xbox full screen stuff and reach people who wants a blend of PC and console?

There is a guaranted path that works and new path can be more of a test run. No need as of 2027 to force everyone to windows.

You have PC and console in one statement from both Sarah and AMD.

@Millionski I suppose, but I'm still on the fence with it all myself. I think we will either be pleasantly surprised and MS will blow us all away, or, they wont, and we'll have had years of hype with little to show. I don't think they will play it safe though, I personally think the former, but that is just me